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Is true everyone drops lays down there first bike at least once?


ok so i am getting a used gsx-r 600 for my first bike and i was talking to this guy who has been riding for a year and he said there is no doubt that i will lay down my bike the first week/month i get it.... i have never ridden a street bike before (just dirt bikes) but i find it hard to believe if i take really good care of it and baby it until i get a good feel for it and not do stupid tricks like him i could keep it in exellent condtion also this same person told me that 250's are for girls.... is that true? i would rather spend 3k on a brand new 08 ninja 250 but apperently people in beat up old cars will be laughing at my small engine (i think this is bs, any real biker can respect a 250)

what do you think

You don't have to get a 250. A 600 is just fine as long as you are mature enough to respect the bike.

If you already know and understand how to drive a manual transmission, it helps learning a motorcycle because it's one less thing you have to focus on when learning. The common saying is that if you can drive a stick and ride a bicycle, learning a motorcycle will be easy. If you can practice discipline and restraint when riding, you may be fine. It's not all fun and games on a sport bike. Even if you ride perfect you need to know how to react when other cars and bikes and trucks don't drive so perfect. That comes from building new instincts and reflexes, and driving habits. While I definitely recommend the class, the class doesn't usually teach all you need to know. Many, many riders go down every summer due to overconfidence gained by taking the class.

The first time I ever touched a motorcycle, it was a 1997 ZX6. I rode it around a parking lot for 5 minutes to find out how to shift, then rode 100 miles home on the interstate. I鈥檝e been riding ever since with a clean riding history. (Thanks to God) So it is possible to start on something other than a 250.

When I ride on the highway, I assume that every car I pass or that passes me, doesn't see me and is looking to come into my lane. I'm ready for any move that car makes half a second before he makes it.

You have to learn aerodynamics. If you get to close behind a rig, the wind can trap you there. When you pass along side of a rig the wind will pull you closer to the truck at one point and push you away at another. You have to learn all this and have counter balance and movements programmed into your body reflexes. There is so much more to it. You need lots of practice.

People recommend smaller CC bikes for beginners because most newbies are into it for the speed and flashiness of it and often underestimate the seriousness of riding safe. The temptation to tap into that power is usually too great to overcome. If you know you can and will respect the bike and get at least 3 thousand miles of practice before hitting the highway, and before group rides, then maybe you can start on a 600cc bike. Otherwise, help yourself out and start small.

id say hes right 250 are for girls and yea u might lay it down
it happend to me it was my first day with the bike and i layed it down going around a corner only doing like 10-12mph i had gottin a nail in my rear tire and the tire rolled over on its self making me go down yea it wasnt fun but never stoped me from riding agin

Someone else here has said about what I'm going to.There are two kinds of riders: " those who have been down and those who are going down."We never plan on going down but if an individual plans on riding daily or hard,it's basically inevitable.If not for something stupid,crazy, weird,or without someone elses help.I've ridden since 1971 and I would never be so bold as to say that I'm never going down.I've been down in some of the craziest ways,very unexpectedly.And there have been times that I've gone down and it had absolutely nothing to do with respecting my bike.And even as much of a Jesus follower as I am,it didn't keep me from going down.Get what you want and try to be as careful as you can.But any biker knows why we are bikers.Because we have a free will and free spirit.Things will just happen.

Ride your own ride.
Remember that a bikes natural position is on its side. Even experienced riders can lay one down.

Once?
No, not true, but a few times is much more likely.

In the dirt, no one is trying to kill you like on the road. Well truth be told no will be trying to kill you on the road either, but once you have been on the road, you will think cars, truck, and SUVs are trying to kill you. On the road, you have to pay attention to what you are doing and everyone around you as well. It has little to do with how well you ride or what you know, but rather how well you can predict what will happen ahead of you, to the side of you, and behind you, and the steps you take to avoid a crash.

Get a copy of David L. Hough's book Proficient Motorcycling, read it / understand it, and take a Motorcycle Safty Class, and the odds will shift into your favor that you won't drop your first bike, as much.

250cc bikes are great first/starter bikes, but many people feel that they grow out of them to fast. Honda, Suzuki, and Yamaha all make nice light weight 250cc bikes, but these bikes are all cruiser style motorcycles and do not have a very fast top speed and are limited on power. Kawaski makes the Ninja 250, and NO ONE is going to laugh at that bike.

There is nothing wrong with a Ninja 250, and if any one has a problem with it-it's their problem. Ride what you like! Not what someone else likes.

Oh, and just for the record, those people in beat up old cars won't be laughing at you. They will be crying about gas prices to much to notice you on a Ninja that gets 65-70mpg.
Good Luck and
Ride Safe

Get which ever bike you want. Who cares what other people think about you. Also I dont agree that you will lay it down the first week. You may buts its not a guarantee. Usually the term is "eventually" you will lay a bike down. That's just statistically speaking

Two kinds of people: those that have and those that will.

I am the latter.

Bought a new 07 CBR600RR and lay it down in about a month with broken right side mirror cost $35. The bike is too tall for me. Plan to lower it 2".

No, laying your bike down isn't inevitable. Don't worry what other people think about your bike. You're not riding for their enjoyment.

there are two kinds of motorcycle riders....those that have "been down" and those that will , period ! get yourself a "basket case" sportster.....you will learn the real meaning of
love for the road.and riding. remember...rubber side down!

i dropped on my first longer ride going from a paved to a gravel road. mashed up the turn signals and bruised my elbow.

i've had a 250 i may try to get another one to cruise around on again. i don't really care who laughs or likes it. i'm on a bike...

Every motorcycle I've had has been on its side on the ground, not just the first one. People in parking lots back their cars into 'em. People knock 'em over for the h- of it.

Anyway, you're not a first time rider, since you have experience with dirt bikes. Buy what you like. I stopped laughing at other peoples' rides when a Suzuki scooter passed me on the freeway -- and they were two-up.

Actually, there are THREE kinds of riders, those that HAVE crashed, those that are GOING to crash and those who will crash AGAIN...because they didn't learn anything the first time. 250 Ninja is as good as any, BUT, I would predict you will "outgrow" it rather quickly and want something bigger, plus their engines turn at extremely high rpm, which means shorter engine life and facing a rebuild of the top end sooner.
It's not guaranteed you will take a spill, but novice riders usually do have a few little "clankers" starting off. Your dirtbike experience will be a help as far as handling the bike, no help with traffic and dealing with cell-phone yakking cage drivers...K ;o)

If I were you I wouldn't buy the gixxer from that guy, he sounds like a jerk.
The Ninja 250 is a great bike to start on and it has no markings to tell what size engine it has (pretty smart of Kawi). You will eventually outgrow it but then you can sell it to a beginner and continue the cycle.
If you haven't already taken an MSF class you should. Street and dirt are different worlds with different hazards.
http://www.msf-usa.org
Have fun with whatever you end up choosing.

Get the GSX, it's a fab bike and nothing wrong with it.
Don't spend 3k on a Ninja 250, I've seen the reviews and its not brill.


Hope I helped!

Forget the GSXR and the asshat who owns it. The Ninja 250 is the ultimate beginner's bike, I'd take one over any Harley any day.

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