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Do people really think Lance Armstrong DIDN"T cheat in his Tour De France victories??? |
It has been 100% proven lance did epo in the 99 tour, 6 frozen urine samples through various stages (most that he won) PROVED he took EPO during the race. He was "Trained" by pro-tour doping specialist Dr. Ferrari until the gentle doctor was found guilty of teaching cyclists how to dope and get away with it. ALL of his closest competitors during his tour wins were associated with or found to have used enhancing drugs! Furthermore, his cancer could be attributed to the various types of steroids he was using while he was coached by Chris Carmichael while on the US national team. Please try to explain how I am wrong intelligently. And try not to use the smelly people as an excuse!! long ago during my school days when i was nearing the exam dates a great teacher of mine said to me, "if you don't cheat, you are stupid!!" "to cheat and get caught, you are worse than stupid" "to cheat and not get caught, that is something not everybody can do" at least that's what he said.... Wait, is has been 100% proven? Please share a reliable source; I had not heard that it has been factually proven. if he did cheat, he's smarter than the others, he didn't test positive! you should get on with your life. If he didn't cheat then he was the most amazing athlete in the modern era. Cycling is corrupt and *most* cyclers take roids or other performance enhancers. If lance was able to beat all of these cheaters 7 times without cheating that would be unbeleivable. Its pretty obvious that he did something. But its hard to be mad at him considering all he has done for cancer research. At least he used his fame for the good of society. i dissagree that cycling is corrupt. cycling is doing what every sport out there is doing, only they are trying to take a stand and change instead of turning a blind eye to it. everyone knows football players, baseball players and american sports in general dopes. cycling is the only sport making a strong effort to stop it. the signs of epo were in the 98 blood samples. they dont test for epo with urine tests. yes, doping was widespread. at the time they couldnt test for epo. looking for an edge, i am willing to bet many cyclists of the time were using it. the thing is this, there was a leak from the lab (totally unprofessional and wrong). no one ever verified those samples were actually lances. they were numbered samples and someone leaking information from the lab said they were his. they may have actually been his, but can you really trust someone leaking information to get a story in the paper? of course he would say they were lances to get the most attention, even if they werent. look, i believe he likely doped, but all i am saying is there has to be justice. there has to be due process. rasmussen was destroyed by rumors and that wasnt right. no one ever proved anything. he was persumed guilty with no evidence, no trial, no consideration. we cannot condemn people without proof. no matter how much we think we know, it isnt right to condemn someone without actual facts. until someone proves otherwise, despite all the rumors, we have to say lance raced clean. no one has a shred of evidence that says different. they have rumors, but no facts, no possitive tests that can be verified. You've been reading From Lance to Landis.... I think there is a good amount of evidence that he did dope, if I were a betting man, I would wager that he did. To me, the instant message conversation between Frankie Andreau and Jonathon Vaughters is the most damning. Two former teammates that had no idea their conversation would ever be seen were talking openly about Lance's doping, that's the nail in the coffin. However, I don't think it takes everything away from him, the other top riders like Ullrich and Basso are also clearly dopers and he crushed them because in addition to his doping program, he also worked harder than the rest. But in the end, cheating is cheating, who knows what the results would be if all the riders were clean. |
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