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| *Vultures Knob>>>Cruiser Bike |
First I want to thank everyone who responded to my question. I will explain as follows.? |
Many legitimate issues were raised, and as an older guy, I tend to forget that midrange means crotch rocket perormance. To be fair, no, it will not be on par with anything of that type. It can perform with a cruiser type bike up to about 500cc. What many people do not realize is that electric motors perform at about 3 times the equivalent horse power of an internal combustion engine, e.g. 10hp electric requires an ICE of 30hp to be its match. The bike uses an electric motor with a peak hp of 13hp, and an 200cc ICE of 15hp peak. It can easily reach 100 mph, and cruise all day at 70mph. It is not nesessarily quiet. As for looks, very important. I am trying to be true to the bike I tore apart, so looks are very important. Reliability is fundemental. Hence, build time 18 months and counting. Bike stats: 354 lbs. Li-ion would save over 40 lbs. Looks like a vintage cruiser, handles well. Batteries AGM 54 lbs, saving for Li-ion, very expensive. With this info, would you still buy? Riding around town to go to and from work (especially in the cities where there is a lot of people and pollution) it would be something that I would think about and encourage my loving hubby to have a look at. Hopefully though it won't be anything like the hybrid cars that once you need the power there goes the environment and the fuel economy. Good luck on your enterprise Still, No. I want a Diesel bike! http://www.dieselbike.net/ Whew-how are things in your fantasy balloon? An electric motor outperforms an I C engine? Uh, yeah if you don't consider the batteries. Are you planning on using a 100mile long extension cord?? BTW, where are you going to get the electrical power in the first place? Electrical generating stations run on ...fossil fuel, usually natural gas. And this reduces carbon fuel dependency how...? You must be under the age of 25, or you work for the government. Absolutely NO.. im still interested, would like some more details though. what type of transmission and final drive are you using? is it styled after a harley type cruiser? would love to take it for a ride sounds interesting. If you build it they will come..... I was going to give you an honest answer yesterday, but didn't know enough about your hybrid configuration of ICE, battery, and motor to tell if it was total electric drive with an ICE/generator power supply (with battery buffer) as used with everything from huge earth movers, diesel locomotives, and smaller ships - or - a series-linked hybrid of motor and ICE on a common power output shaft. After your updated post, I have a little better idea of your hybrid application, but I'm sure you aren't able to expound too much because you have a pending patent to protect. Obviously, the critics are completely uninformed as to the terribly limited horsepower/torque limitations of an ICE since such has absolutely zero horsepower or torque unless it is running and spinning at a given rpm; and an ICE's maximum torque and horsepower are only brought to bear when it reaches about 3/4 or more of it's maximum rpm. An electric motor or steam engine can apply it's maximum horsepower and torque anywhere and all the time from a dead stop through any rpm. First, it sounds like you have a very workable concept, and it's interesting to (I think) be relying on the ICE as the primary and using the electric motor as the battery charger and secondary/series power source for fast acceleration that isn't possible with the small ICE working alone. Not being an expert on current hybrid automobiles, I was under the impression that the motor was the primary power source; and even though the motor acted as a generator to charge the batteries during braking and deceleration, the ICE was the primary battery charging power plant and would even shut down periodically when batteries were fully charged. Actually, it seems that your concept is considerably more practical and can get by with a smaller motor and fewer batteries than would be required if the motor were the primary drive. I seriously feel that the automakers are focused on keeping the motor as the primary drive source simply because the large battery banks required are only a temporary thing until they all get the hydrodgen fuel-cell perfected (as an electrical power source) that they're all so feverishly working on at present. The large banks of batteries are terribly expensive and will ultimately create tremendous problems with disposal or recycling the millions of worn out batteries generated every month if the world switched to the current rendition of a hybrid. The automakers know that, so the large battery banks will be a dinosaur in a few short years. I sincerely feel that, like it or not, pollution standards and depletion of fossil fuels will mean that we'll all be driving electric cars in the very near future - with only the electrical producing power source as the changing factor. I think you have a great idea, but to answer your big question, no I wouldn't buy one right now because I simply like the sound of a big V-twin when I'm accelerating through the gears and get a little buzz just racking off the pipes once in awhile. OK, so I'm just an old hot-rodder born in the '40s - but that doesn't mean that many other people wouldn't be terribly interested in an agressive new concept motorcycle that worked well and very was energy efficient. We both know that selling anything is a matter of excellent advertising, lots of sales hype (backed up with good supporting data), and plenty of public exposure. I've seen really great ideas and products die from little or no public exposure, but also seen pure crap sell by the billions when there's enough shrewed marketing and plenty of hype. Consider McDonalds - I rest my case. Good luck my friend. |
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